laileen
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| 16 years ago |
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| I'm trying to access WM Classic but the Beta is the one showing up. It's a pity while I still prefer working with the classic. |
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BigMagicCat
 Joined: 18/05/07
Places: 1470
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| 16 years ago |
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MHibbs
 Joined: 20/10/06
Places: 2626
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| 16 years ago |
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Yet again, another unannounced, unwanted and forced change from the wikimapia "team".
You can still access wikiclassic places by clicking on MAP, then the WIKIMAPIA CLASSIC choice on the bottom of the menu. |
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stcraftie59
 Joined: 11/02/07
Places: 4441
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| 16 years ago |
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Mine still works. Do you start Wikimapia via a bookmark to a place, or the generic <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="www.wikimapia.org">www.wikimapia.org<!-- w -->?
Here's a link. It should take you to the Statue of Liberty using Classic.
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.wikimapia.org/#lat=40.6892619&;lon=-74.0445739&z=18&l=0&m=h&v=2">www.wikimapia.org/#lat=40.689261 ... =0&m=h&v=2<!-- m -->
Bookmark a place in classic and start from there. Should work. |
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MHibbs
Joined: 20/10/06
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| 16 years ago |
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Both those links open up in beta for me. At first I thought it was my bookmark, but when I re-entered the full url it takes me straight to the beta version, with classic rectangles
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stcraftie59
Joined: 11/02/07
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| 16 years ago |
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| Strange. Full classic here. Anyone want to try adding classic/ to the URL? |
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laileen
Joined: 10/09/08
Places: 962
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| 16 years ago |
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| I see the difference between the Classic and Beta with its menu bar. Although I go to <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.wikimapia.org/">www.wikimapia.org/<;!-- m -->, but still the Beta Menu bar is showing up, and with the link of of the Statue of Liberty is the same. Anyway then I have to get use on this new thing now. |
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laileen
Joined: 10/09/08
Places: 962
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koriakine
Joined: 07/05/06
Places: 240
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| 16 years ago |
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| We are testing now releasing of BETA, no announcement until we are sure that our servers handle the load. Wikimapia Classic in in the Map type. There may be some glitches when browser caches old Wikimapia. |
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MHibbs
Joined: 20/10/06
Places: 2626
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| 16 years ago |
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| No more polygons in the "new" version of old wikimapia. |
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seafordian
 Joined: 24/07/07
Places: 6146
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| 16 years ago |
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"There may be some glitches when browser caches old Wikimapia."
Yeah, there are plenty...for all accounts, Classic is gone for me now no matter what I try. |
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MHibbs
Joined: 20/10/06
Places: 2626
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| 16 years ago |
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| Another glitch - I can't add new places in classic mode. |
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seafordian
Joined: 24/07/07
Places: 6146
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| 16 years ago |
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| Confirmed. I also loaded the regular satellite map a second ago and got "terrain and water" patch mode automatically. That shouldn't have happened, right? |
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eliyutero
 Joined: 24/10/07
Places: 509
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| 16 years ago |
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| This new version is very frustrating! Please bring back the Classic version as it was. If it ain't broke don't fix it. |
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bari
 Joined: 13/10/08
Places: 4288
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| 16 years ago |
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| One hour ago I could use Classic without any problem - adding places, photos, editing etc. I went to prepare and eat some dinner, returned here - and no more Classic... I hope it will be returned soon! I am a Classic-fan, please, don't deprive me of it! |
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eamaral
Joined: 31/01/08
Places: 7994
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| 16 years ago |
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WEll, it was told we would have Wikimapia beta as the main wikimapia...
But it was also told we would still have access to old wikimapia, and by now it's not true...
- Will we have polygons in "wikimapia classic" mode?
- Will we be able to resize rectangles by any way?
If we won't, i think it's better to just abandon classic. It won't be of any real use soon, if there are only lots of cluttered rectangles, that can't be corrected...
Tonight i will test it more, and try to find more glitches (although i hope i can't find them!) |
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stcraftie59
Joined: 11/02/07
Places: 4441
Userlevel: -2 |
| 16 years ago |
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Using my original bookmark, Beta starts up instead of classic.
[b:2hqdmdc6] And it starts up in Google hybrid mode.[/b:2hqdmdc6]
You can select classic from the menu, but you cannot resize rectangles.
Let us have our classic back, PLEASE! |
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sodabottle
 Joined: 02/03/09
Places: 1036
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| 16 years ago |
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Classic RIP.. :-((
Two requests:
1) Please Make "Satellite+old places" the default view - will avoid a lot of duplicate tags
2) Tune Beta to make it faster |
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renkessler
Joined: 30/12/07
Places: 2960
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| 16 years ago |
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| Classic is available on the "Map Type" menu. It shows the rectangles, but you cannot add or edit rectangles in that mode, it appears. |
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Anood_boy
 Joined: 03/05/07
Places: 30
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| 16 years ago |
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| I find the new version faster, but I wonder why those changes weren't announced. |
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sodabottle
Joined: 02/03/09
Places: 1036
Userlevel: -2 |
| 16 years ago |
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| Speed seems to be ok now.. |
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MHibbs
Joined: 20/10/06
Places: 2626
Userlevel: -2 |
| 16 years ago |
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| Just re-logged in and was taken directly to classic! wahoo!! |
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stcraftie59
Joined: 11/02/07
Places: 4441
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| 16 years ago |
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>>Speed seems to be ok now..<<
Not here. Looks like I'm going to be playing a lot of Solitaire waiting for the image to load.
Edit: Classic is back for me also! FSM be praised! |
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allgaiar
Joined: 29/07/07
Places: 16056
Userlevel: -2 |
| 16 years ago |
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Scott: "Let us have our classic back, PLEASE!!
Full agreement.
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sodabottle
Joined: 02/03/09
Places: 1036
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| 16 years ago |
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| the rumours of classic's death are grossly exaggerated..;-) |
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Teresa
 Joined: 16/10/06
Places: 10868
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| 16 years ago |
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| I just wish someone from the admin can communicate with us about these changes and not treat us like 2 year old, that we can't possibly understand or need to know until afterwards. From past experiences, we were not even told afterwards, more often we have to work it out by ourselves in the dark. |
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bari
Joined: 13/10/08
Places: 4288
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| 16 years ago |
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MHibbs: Congratulation! I logged out and in again - and I was taken back to my be-loved Classic!
May be it is just tested how creativ the users are... |
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MHibbs
Joined: 20/10/06
Places: 2626
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| 16 years ago |
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@ Sodabottle
the rumours of classic's death are grossly exaggerated..;-)
Thankfully! I agree with Teresa though...the way the admins handle stuff like this is really disrespectful to the users. I just hope this is not a sign of things to come!
Viva classic! |
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koriakine
Joined: 07/05/06
Places: 240
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| 16 years ago |
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As it was told soon we will move to Wikimapia BETA, and the Wikimapia Classic is in BETA menu 'Map type' -- > 'Wikimapia Classic'.
sodabottle:
The default map layer will be Wikimapia Satellite, but we will fix a feature that will avoid duplicate tags.
upd: it must be obvious that we permanently changing and testing Wikimapia, to make it better! |
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eamaral
Joined: 31/01/08
Places: 7994
Userlevel: -2 |
| 16 years ago |
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[i:1xea7n0t]and the Wikimapia Classic is in BETA menu 'Map type' -- > 'Wikimapia Classic'. [/i:1xea7n0t]
Not all true...
1. In Wikimapia classic, we can highlight polygons. But we can't see polygons in this classic map mode.
2. In Wikimapia classic, we can resize rectangles. Not true for this classic mode.
3. In Wikimapia classic there are different views, including Wikimapia place tags together with Google hybrid layer. Not true for this map view also.
4. In Wikimapia classic, we have area measure tool. It was not inserted into beta too...
BTW, the polygon (and rectangle) history feature is not showing old polygons (rectangles) in beta since some days. I could not test it in this beta version accesses by wikimapia.org, but i would not like to lose these history features once beta is made our standard version. Please, fix beta bugs and transfer functions from classic to beta before eliminating classic...
PS
@admins: is it so hard to simply write here:
"we will make some tests rearding making beta the standard interface. Classic rectangles will still be available by 'map type -> Wikimapia classic'"
[b:1xea7n0t]before[/b:1xea7n0t] users need to find out by themselves what is happening?
You may think it is not necessary (or relevant enough), but users do think it's a signal of lack of communication between admins and users. I ask you to please reconsider this way of dealing with users in order to avoid more users going away (yes, announcedly or silently, there are some going...) |
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renkessler
Joined: 30/12/07
Places: 2960
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| 16 years ago |
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eamaral;
Clearly AK has a vision for WM and our views don't really matter. Proof: the large number of feature requests and security measures we have suggested over the last year that have not been given serious consideration.
Our needs are not important enough for him to alter his development plan. Even though it is we, the users, that have created the product that helps him to earn his living.
It has become obvious that the users have a greater grasp of the needs of the "Map" than he does. When challenged he becomes defensive and even rude at times. As though to say "It is my game and you must play by my rules."
I have been very discouraged lately with all the "fixing" we have had to do when an ounce of prevention would put us back to work "creating."
I guess we can live with it, or go away, like so many other users have already done.
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koriakine
Joined: 07/05/06
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| 16 years ago |
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Hey, you cannot call it 'lack of communication' while having me replied here. We are in process of reorganizing Wikimapia, and then all things will be in a proper way. We will take care of bugs you mentioned.
renkessler: Clearly AK has a vision for WM.
Here you must put Wikimapia Team has a vision and a development plan, of course. It was clearly stated, we must follow it to make Wikimapia as it must be. Many function proposed were implemented (we moved greatly last year - we've been doing all that users said before), and the lack of resources (time, programmers) cannot be stated as ignorance. You will see how Wikimapia will move after it's reorganization. |
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renkessler
Joined: 30/12/07
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| 16 years ago |
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See what I mean about being defensive? It is not what you communicate, but how.
What about fixing the security holes? |
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seafordian
Joined: 24/07/07
Places: 6146
Userlevel: -2 |
| 16 years ago |
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| Ok guys, calm down and quit the griping! Be lucky you have anything like this to begin with!!! |
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koriakine
Joined: 07/05/06
Places: 240
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| 16 years ago |
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renkessler: What about fixing the security holes?
For the bugs and holes - we are closing most important holes, while moving the project further.
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renkessler
Joined: 30/12/07
Places: 2960
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| 16 years ago |
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1) registration: captcha and e-mail verification and a check against the banned users database to make it more difficult for sock puppets.
2) preventing unregistered users from adding/editing.
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koriakine
Joined: 07/05/06
Places: 240
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| 16 years ago |
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renkessler: We can't have new things and useful upgrades until we have Wikimapia reorganized (code and structure), it is almost finished (imagine you disassemble old Fiat and from these parts you must assemble new Ferrari ).
1 and 2, I wrote about this many times, and we aware of this, and about many other things. |
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koriakine
Joined: 07/05/06
Places: 240
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| 16 years ago |
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| GuyRoshto: I understand and agree, as I said - reorganizations is in process. |
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donotdisturb
Joined: 20/05/07
Places: 14598
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| 16 years ago |
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| The [b:3drpverl]only thing[/b:3drpverl] we all want - if any reorganization works are underway, please keep us informed of what is happening with the system now and what is going to happen, at least, tomorrow! |
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stcraftie59
Joined: 11/02/07
Places: 4441
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| 16 years ago |
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>>please keep us informed of what is happening with the system now and what is going to happen<<
24 hour advanced notice would be [b:1d5b1akm]great[/b:1d5b1akm]. No, strike that. [b:1d5b1akm]Fantastic.[/b:1d5b1akm] |
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MHibbs
Joined: 20/10/06
Places: 2626
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| 16 years ago |
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| Beyond fantastic. Half the reason everybody gets upset is the lack of information. Telling us in broad language about changes months ago does not suffice as fair warning. All we want is to be treated fairly, duly informed and given the benefit of having our communal voices heard, especially about Beta. |
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jacksav
Joined: 05/10/06
Places: 149
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| 16 years ago |
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| We've changed old Wikimapia to Beta few minutes ago, you may access Wikimapia Classic in Map type menu. Your bug reports are welcome. |
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DonEsslemont
 Joined: 29/07/08
Places: 458
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| 16 years ago |
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@ jacksav
I can't find any was to change rectangles in beta. Is it in fact possible? |
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shbn
 Joined: 24/11/06
Places: 519
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| 16 years ago |
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I was about to ask the same question as Don.
What happened to Resize Rectangle!? |
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laileen
Joined: 10/09/08
Places: 962
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| 16 years ago |
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@jacksav
Thanks for the info. And it's really interesting what DonEsslemont said, where could we really find this command of changing rectangles??? |
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dawtcalm
 Joined: 27/11/06
Places: 1454
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| 16 years ago |
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Another "improvement" no one was asking for. The "developers" are clueless...
I too have the same questions including how do we resize polygons now!!! |
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stcraftie59
Joined: 11/02/07
Places: 4441
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| 16 years ago |
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| I agree that Classic should have a way of minimizing rectangles. To remove that feature cripples Classic. |
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longhill
 Joined: 11/03/09
Places: 401
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| 16 years ago |
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| I find no useful purpose for the so called "Wikimapia Classic" menu item and the name is misleading. The [i:tigl7s3v]real[/i:tigl7s3v] WM Classic provided useful features. I guess we need to start requesting those features in the development forum now? |
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forrestgumprock
 Joined: 18/08/07
Places: 455
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| 16 years ago |
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| You know how long it took me to login when WM Beta popped up!!!!????? a long time! |
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dawtcalm
Joined: 27/11/06
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| 16 years ago |
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dammit, and the beta version doesn't show rectangles, so how are you supposed to know if the area has already been marked? I would estimate there is a significant amount of rectangle-ONLY landmarks without the polygons, so unless you switch to the "Semi-classic" mode you don't see a large portion of landmarks... Ridiculous....
I've been trying to do some polygons, but of course beta doesn't load chucks of map at a time so I can't even find the borders correctly to create the polygons...
And what is the difference between "Satellite and Old Places" and "Classic"???
How do I use Google Hybrid View and see rectangles!
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