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Martin67
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Cool link Ken! :-)
By any chance, does anyone know if the picture added by User senatornamibia is legit here? <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="wikimapia.org/#lat=47.8854167&;lon=106.9266808&z=18&l=0&m=b&v=8&show=/10715387/the-great-khan">wikimapia.org/#lat=47.8854167&;lo ... great-khan<!-- m --> |
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happygoth09
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| The photo was absolutely useless, even the tag itself here in WM... |
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davechiew
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Haha. Black humor. That's a picture of the Malaysian Prime Minister Datuk Najib.
The PM was implicated by certain parties to be involved in the murder of mongolian model Altantuya whose body was blown to bits with C4 explosives in Malaysia. |
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renkessler
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| I'm just guessing here, but it looks to me like a tag bagging to be deleted. |
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Horology
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To me it looks like a project undertaken (officially or privately?) by a group of soldiers from the Indian Air Force (which has an airbase nearby), to create something (the motto of their unit?) that is only visible from the aire (or from satelites)
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Aldi1
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bio2935c
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If you're marking the river, just draw it straight across.
If you're marking the aqueduct, just draw it as you would a bridge; and use [aqueduct] category. |
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Aldi1
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Thanks for your tip, bio!
But I don't draw rivers, to much hassle with the banks.
Just wondered. |
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cramyourspam
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cramyourspam
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This one isn't funny or amazing like so many past thread contributions you folks have put up, but it intrigues me ---the White House South Lawn Egg Blob Outline which never seems to go away, but which I can't get an info box for.
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Anyone know what the deal with it is? |
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stcraftie59
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It's a 'not there'.
Switch to classic, itsa not there anymore. :o)
Actually a 'ghost' of an old deleted tag where the polygon never was cleared from the database. Happens sometimes. |
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cramyourspam
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Horology
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To me
THE ROOF OF THE WORLD
is an interesting place. I find this location geographically, historically and culturally interesting.
See
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This is where the European, Mideastern, Chinese and Indian culktural speres are within a few kilometers of each other ... and it is smack in the middle of the most important trade route 1000 years ago (The Silk Route), but today it is a desolate place. |
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stcraftie59
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RK77
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@ Horology,
The 'Roof of the World' tag needs redrawing. It is very aesthetic, but there is no visible place there with the dimensions you have demarcated.
My personal recommendation is to reduce the size (drastically) to where the four cultures meet on the 'Silk Route'. |
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Horology
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RK77:
I am very aware of the problems with the shape (and size) of the polygon.
However: There is no one 'point' where the four cultures meet, due to the extremly mountainous terrain. The little square in the center is the actual location where the ruins (now just a dirt trail) of the ancient silk road pass from Afgahnistan to Tajikistan. Pakistan is 23 km to the south of there, and China is 30 km east of there.
What I tried to do with the arrows pointing to the center indicate the directions from which the 4 cultures are coming, with narrow connectors to the center. I wanted the back end of the arrws to actually be on the Pakistan and Chinese border. The problem comes that one can not draw very long slender connectors (you get 'Polygon too long' errors) so I needed to add additional arrow shapes along the way.
I would never draw a polygon like that in an area where there are (or ever will be) other features, but that is unlikely in that desolate area.
I therefor made the judgement call to draw it like that. I know it is not ideal, but I believe it is a defensible judgement. |
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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Here is a bit of overestimating the importance of this area, at least for the Silk Route...
Most caravans went through Iran and the northern "Stan" countries into Chinese territory.
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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I agree 100% with RK77 and I prefer the majestic emptyness of this area and I think it should go, because within a historical layer it would be even trivial and a simplified story of the past.
(We could draw arrows in Nevada of how Indians were fleeing or attacking the enemy) |
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RK77
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Horology,
In my interpretation, a historical object can only stay if there is an existing place, or traces of said existing place, still visible for it to be marked in the first place.
I had to "recycle" a battle tag of mine because it was a historical event whose precise location could not be pinpointed. (No matter how much I researched or tried to justify its existence.)
Don't misunderstand me, I find your tag very enlightening; but when I look at the seven reasons for deletion, the 'Roof of the World' qualifies for three of them:
* There is no place marked by this outline
* Non-existent place, even if it was there in the past
* A non-existing place where any event happened
I don't want this tag to be deleted, but it needs adjusting to conform with acceptability. |
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Horology
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I have no problem with the redimensioned polygon left by ' stcraftie59 '. Thanks for redrawing it.
I guess there will never be complete agreement on places where nothing (or very little) is visible on the map images.
Obviously Wikimapia is -rightfully- full of tags and places that refer to 'invisible' places. For one thing all borders and outlines of countries or administrative divisions are construct of the minds (or of the law) rather than physical constructs that leave physical evidence on the surface of the earth. So are the borders of National parks etc. So a visible a trace can not be the criteria if a place deserves a Wikimedia tag.
Another interesting case might be language areas. Some countries have besides administrative divisions, also officially designated 'language borders' and thus legally defined language areas. I havent seen any such areas tagged in Wikimapia yet, but if we allow tagging of administrative areas (states, counties, municipalities), would we also allow tagging and polygoning 'language areas'?
Another such 'mental construct" are for instance the 'Three continental divides', the points where water drainage areas of three different oceans meet. They are important geographic places, and -in my opinion- deserve to be marked and taged on Wikimapia.
My Tag "The roof of the world" in a way is similar, it marks a 'four way cultural divide'. a specific geographic point of some importance.
Obviously we need rules and guidelines to avoid chaos, but as allways the devil is in the details of interpreting the rules.
Just my thoughts, I know reasonable people can disagree on these things. |
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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- is a very very big tag
- are we going to add borders from now on? (especially in an area where borders aren't accepted by all)
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RK77
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Borders may be constructs of the mind, but 'Wikimapia' allows them to be marked. I personally think we should concentrate on marking things which are universally established and 'common knowledge'. If we skew the interpretations of the motto: 'Let's describe the whole world!' then we risk implosion and losing a sense of stability.
[i:4yswgl1b]Would it make sense to mark the political entity, Yugoslavia (or its various versions) as opposed to Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia et al? Should I mark places as they are now or cause confusion by marking the zenith expanse of the Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire or even the various campaigns of the Crusades? Would it be wise to visualise Pangaea and delimit the break-up of the supercontinents with a rudimentary polygon? I could go on...[/i:4yswgl1b]
Why mark language borders according to their polygonal dimensions? Wouldn't it be simpler to add a few sentences about legally defined language areas in the description of the relevant tags?
The founders of this website have published some lucid guidelines on what can and can't be marked. See here for an example: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="wikimapia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4328&;goto=90573#goto90573">wikimapia.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... #goto90573<!-- m -->
There will be a percentage of users who may not agree with it, but they will have to abide by it. I'm not against the passion for history and how it irrevocably intertwines with geography. I, myself, would like to see historical tags to stay, but A.K. has said that this has been shelved for another project. Tough luck, I would say - but there you have it.
ps. The redrawn polygon is better, but in 'map view' it looks like two paper aeroplanes are pointing towards a target. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="wikimapia.org/#lat=37.3649729&;lon=74.8800659&z=12&l=0&m=w">wikimapia.org/#lat=37.3649729&;lo ... 12&l=0&m=w<!-- m --> I'd add the 'invisible' category to all of them, but that's me. |
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cramyourspam
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| I added a visible plane wreckage at 48.692, -54.9214 (near Gander, Newfoundland) but you have to be zoomed almost to street level to see it, and it is in the middle of the bush. (That is to say, nobody will see it unless they know exactly where to look.) |
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stcraftie59
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cramyourspam
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@stcraftie
interesting |
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cramyourspam
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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| Very handy cram, otherwise we wouldn't know it was a church. |
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Martin67
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On the roof it is written Among others "frites de chez nous - chez vous"
I though it could also have been some sort of restaurant "inside" the church building but after
a research I found that Haitian people often use food names for celebrations or events.
Ref: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.medecinsdumonde.be/+Haiti-Lavi-12-12-9-292-563-merc...">www.medecinsdumonde.be/+Haiti-La ... rcis+.html<!-- m -->
Thanks cramyourspam :-) |
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RK77
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| A rocket-powered icicle? ;-) |
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wgsj
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| RK77 this should be an atomic bomb. ;-) |
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stcraftie59
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A tear in the space-time continuum? A warping of dimensions?
Maybe just bad splicing??? :o)) |
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bio2935c
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cramyourspam
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@ RK77
"A rocket-powered icicle?"
--caused a rare geographic loud laugh. thanks. |
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wgsj
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hsts
It is a very strange image. But it may be what you said. |
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stcraftie59
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| A Rocket Propelled Parsnip Grenade (RPPG)? |
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cramyourspam
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RoofMaster
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| Cool! |
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