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4605
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Please move category [u:2h9cverv]tugboat[/u:2h9cverv] as child category of boat or ship.
preferably under category ship, as many oceangoing tugs cum supply vessels are huge.
It maybe mentioned that almost all tugboats are also rigged to serve as firefighters too. |
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kbrind
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Please create category for:
"Electric Bike Dealer/Shop"
"Hybrid Car Dealer/Showroom" |
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Aldi1
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Please approve" Limes (de)"
There are many sites from Germany to North Africa where the fortifications are still visible or restaurated. See the wikipedia article.
The present English categories "naherholung" and "industriekultur" should be on the German page. And I request the approval. |
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bio2935c
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[quote="Aldi1":13xekcbh]Please approve" Limes (de)" [/quote:13xekcbh]
Done |
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dani517
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Please move category «massif» as child category of «mountain».
Propose to clarify the name of the category to «mountain massif». |
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dani517
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| 10 years ago |
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| Please move category «ridge » as child category of «mountain range». |
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Teresa
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[quote="AndrewValdaj":1w9c45rp]Please move category «ridge » as child category of «mountain range».[/quote:1w9c45rp]
Done. Although I think you meant to say to put it under [mountain range] rather than to remove it? As there was no parent for [ridge] before. |
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bio2935c
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An "fyi" to anyone who cares:
I have made [invisible] a parent of [earthquake epicenter], so it should be sufficient to mark earthquake epicenters with just that single category and it won't affect the look of the map. |
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caddrafter80
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[quote="bio2935c":2hxgi87b]An "fyi" to anyone who cares:
I have made [invisible] a parent of [earthquake epicenter], so it should be sufficient to mark earthquake epicenters with just that single category and it won't affect the look of the map.[/quote:2hxgi87b]
That was a great idea! |
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AinarsM
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Hi,
there is duplicate categories - one is [b:w2ckajoz]"Internet company"[/b:w2ckajoz], second is [b:w2ckajoz]"internet service provider (ISP)"[/b:w2ckajoz].
Current scope of "Internet company" must be cleaned and split between "ISP" and something else.
I suppose, that big outcome of this group can be "dot-com companies".
Since we do not have dot-com as standalone category, might be we need rename existing synonyme and then create new category with same name?
Might be someone of You have in mind better solution to this duplicate categories problem?
Much thanks in advance,
Ainars. |
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renkessler
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| Not every "internet company" is an ISP. ISPs are not the only kind of internet company. Broadly speaking "internet company" could be a parent category and "ISP" a child. |
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AinarsM
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[quote="renkessler":3sipxfzj]Not every "internet company" is an ISP. ISPs are not the only kind of internet company. Broadly speaking "internet company" could be a parent category and "ISP" a child.[/quote:3sipxfzj]
Fully agree? thats why I asked Forum advise.
But we cannot make parent this chaotic "internet company" group. Today there is everything selected inside.
Then we need create new clean category same name (make it parent to ISP) and move tags one by one by selecting either Parent or child or commercial one? |
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4605
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[quote="AinarsM":1dv8ux2s][quote="renkessler":1dv8ux2s]Not every "internet company" is an ISP. ISPs are not the only kind of internet company. Broadly speaking "internet company" could be a parent category and "ISP" a child.[/quote:1dv8ux2s]
Fully agree? thats why I asked Forum advise.
But we cannot make parent this chaotic "internet company" group. Today there is everything selected inside.
Then we need create new clean category same name (make it parent to ISP) and move tags one by one by selecting either Parent or child or commercial one?[/quote:1dv8ux2s]
Fully agree on parent category. Thanks to category moderators, categories are continuously evolving. Moving tags one by one is hardly an issue <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
You all have been doing real hard work on cleaning up havoc created by autobot. So no issue there. <!-- s:mrgreen: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt=":mrgreen:" title="Mr. Green" /><!-- s:mrgreen: --> |
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AinarsM
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Thank You for good words and support! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->
I found more categories which MUST BE connected to above category.
"online retailer" +syn: "online shopping"
Today this is connected to parent "store/shop" branch.
Our "Internet provider, ISP" is connected to "telecommunication"
So, what will be our final structure of categ. tree?
parents ? > "internet company"
parents ? > "dot-com company"
Next steps looks better - "Internet provider or ISP" will be child of "internet company".
"online retailer" can be child? of or synonyme? to "dot-com"?
And how about "internet cafe"? They also provide internet access to customers (not an permanent access, but have business anyway)? |
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4605
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[quote="AinarsM":1ocyqfi3]Thank You for good words and support! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->
I found more categories which MUST BE connected to above category.
"online retailer" +syn: "online shopping"
Today this is connected to parent "store/shop" branch.
Our "Internet provider, ISP" is connected to "telecommunication"
So, what will be our final structure of categ. tree?
parents ? > "internet company"
parents ? > "dot-com company"
Next steps looks better - "Internet provider or ISP" will be child of "internet company".
"online retailer" can be child? of or synonyme? to "dot-com"?
And how about "internet cafe"? They also provide internet access to customers (not an permanent access, but have business anyway)?[/quote:1ocyqfi3]
In your childhood you must have tried catching the ears with either hand sometimes left with right hand or vice versa.
Fun apart, let me ask you in all Sincerity, pleeeeze suggest a parent category of "internet company" <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> |
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4605
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I want to bring following school categories to your notice.
categories "government intermediate college (GIC)" and "Intermediate college" are for Senior secondary schools in India. At the moment they don't have any parent category so they don't show up if searched by category school.
Another category "Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya" is for purely boarding schools from grades 6-12. Additional parent category of boarding school would be justified.
Please do the needful.
Thanks |
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4605
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[quote="LTree":36o7w3es]I want to bring following school categories to your notice.
categories "government intermediate college (GIC)" and "Intermediate college" are for Senior secondary schools in India. At the moment they don't have any parent category so they don't show up if searched by category school.
Another category "Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya" is for purely boarding schools from grades 6-12. Additional parent category of boarding school would be justified.
Please do the needful.
Thanks[/quote:36o7w3es]
My thanks to category moderator Jatayu for making category government intermediate college (GIC) a child category of school and category "Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya" as child category of boarding school.
The decision on category "Intermediate college" is awaited. Maybe it has other use on international level, although the usage is primarily in India as seen on world map. |
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arakp
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Maybe this is more proper topic (I wrote first in [i:24f5rtkh]"Category translations & corrections"[/i:24f5rtkh])...
I see the same problem again...
Someone (hope not Category Moderators, but just some AUs) constantly add Russian local categories as synonyms to the common ones, and they can be visible on the Russian pages on the map of other countries, that is very strange... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->
Here is the next example:
We have a common category [capital city of state/province/region]...
What we see on Russian page of this category [столица штата / провинции / региона]?
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It has the second [color=#800000:24f5rtkh]"synonym"[/color:24f5rtkh] (?!) [color=#800000:24f5rtkh][административный центр субъекта Российской Федерации]
= [administrative center of the subject of the Russian Federation][/color:24f5rtkh]
Please, make this [color=#800000:24f5rtkh]"synonym"[/color:24f5rtkh] a child category or remove it, if you do not want to see it as a category on Russian pages of cities in Italy, Canada or Japan...
Thank you in advance. |
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bio2935c
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[quote="bubnilka":268aoovq]Maybe this is more proper topic (I wrote first in [i:268aoovq]"Category translations & corrections"[/i:268aoovq])...
I see the same problem again...
Someone (hope not Category Moderators, but just some AUs) constantly add Russian local categories as synonyms to the common ones, and they can be visible on the Russian pages on the map of other countries, that is very strange... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->
Here is the next example:
We have a common category [capital city of state/province/region]...
What we see on Russian page of this category [столица штата / провинции / региона]?
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It has the second [color=#800000:268aoovq]"synonym"[/color:268aoovq] (?!) [color=#800000:268aoovq][административный центр субъекта Российской Федерации]
= [administrative center of the subject of the Russian Federation][/color:268aoovq]
Please, make this [color=#800000:268aoovq]"synonym"[/color:268aoovq] a child category or remove it, if you do not want to see it as a category on Russian pages of cities in Italy, Canada or Japan...
Thank you in advance.[/quote:268aoovq]
Yes, you are right that a category name like [... Russian Federation] is NOT a suitable name for any place that is not in that country. And this means that the two categories are in fact NOT synonyms.
It can be ok as a child category, however.
I have now detached the category, but it seems that none of the places that it should apply to came with it. They all remain as [столица штата / провинции / региона]. I did change one city (Perm) to have the newly independent category name, and it would be good if someone would find ALL the regional capitals in Russia and do the same. |
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arakp
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[quote="bio2935c":z8rz2b56]Yes, you are right that a category name like [... Russian Federation] is NOT a suitable name for any place that is not in that country. And this means that the two categories are in fact NOT synonyms.
It can be ok as a child category, however.
I have now detached the category, but it seems that none of the places that it should apply to came with it. They all remain as [столица штата / провинции / региона]. I did change one city (Perm) to have the newly independent category name, and it would be good if someone would find ALL the regional capitals in Russia and do the same.[/quote:z8rz2b56]
Thank you very much. |
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bio2935c
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[quote="bio2935c":3esculx2]I have now detached the category, but it seems that none of the places that it should apply to came with it. They all remain as [столица штата / провинции / региона]. I did change one city (Perm) to have the newly independent category name, and it would be good if someone would find ALL the regional capitals in Russia and do the same.[/quote:3esculx2]
After a discussion in the Russian forum it was decided that the better course of action was to [u:3esculx2]remove[/u:3esculx2] the country-specific category named with [... Russian Federation]. This is really a much 'cleaner' resolution, so that has now been done.
Also, we slightly renamed some of the parent categories. |
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arakp
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[quote="bio2935c":22edmm9t]After a discussion in the Russian forum it was decided that the better course of action was to [u:22edmm9t]remove[/u:22edmm9t] the country-specific category named with [... Russian Federation]. This is really a much 'cleaner' resolution, so that has now been done.
Also, we slightly renamed some of the parent categories.[/quote:22edmm9t]
I also think that this is the optimal solution, especially if the Russian forum agreed.
Thank you again. |
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arakp
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How can it be?..
[volcanic craters] [i:2xxvbm0z](en, Do not use for places)[/i:2xxvbm0z] can be a parent category for the... [volcanic crater]?..
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[b:2xxvbm0z]craters
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maar (crater) volcanic crater (+ synonym = caldera) [/b:2xxvbm0z]
Maybe it is enough to remain only [caldera] or [caldera (crater)] and to allow to use the parent [volcanic craters] for places, if users do not know, what kind of craters they mark?.. |
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bio2935c
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[quote="bubnilka":2e44j1g1]How can it be?..
[volcanic craters] [i:2e44j1g1](en, Do not use for places)[/i:2e44j1g1] can be a parent category for the... [volcanic crater]?..
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[b:2e44j1g1]craters
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volcanic craters
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maar (crater) volcanic crater (+ synonym = caldera) [/b:2e44j1g1]
Maybe it is enough to remain only [caldera] or [caldera (crater)] and to allow to use the parent [volcanic craters] for places, if users do not know, what kind of craters they mark?..[/quote:2e44j1g1]
Yes, I admit it may look a bit strange, and I have now changed the name of [volcanic crater] to [volcanic crater / caldera] to help with that.
I don't recall the specifics of why this structure happened, but I would guess that we had a bunch of objects that were already classified as [maar] and the question came up: "what do we do with them". The choice was to either throw away this specific information or incorporate them in the hierarchy structure. We chose option 2.
The basic idea is that there is more than one kind of volcanic crater, so we have two such categories - and a parent so people can search for both (if they don't care about the kind of crater).
If they [u:2e44j1g1]do[/u:2e44j1g1] care about the kind of crater, then they [u:2e44j1g1]can[/u:2e44j1g1] be more specific. Eventually <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> it is at least possible that all craters will be classified correctly, whereas if they are blended then there is [u:2e44j1g1]no[/u:2e44j1g1] possibility that this will happen.
For those people marking craters who don't know the difference, they will (probably) choose [volcanic crater / caldera]. So it is/will "always" be a blend, but I think it is better to have the blend at this lower level than at the top. |
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arakp
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[quote="bio2935c":38xsypsa][quote="bubnilka":38xsypsa](...)
[b:38xsypsa]craters [i:38xsypsa][color=#8080BF:38xsypsa]'Do not use for places'[/color:38xsypsa][/i:38xsypsa]
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maar (crater) volcanic crater (+ synonym = caldera) [/b:38xsypsa][/quote:38xsypsa]
Yes, I admit it may look a bit strange, and I have now changed the name of [volcanic crater] to [volcanic crater / caldera] to help with that.
I don't recall the specifics of why this structure happened, but I would guess that we had a bunch of objects that were already classified as [maar] and the question came up: "what do we do with them". The choice was to either throw away this specific information or incorporate them in the hierarchy structure. We chose option 2.
The basic idea is that there is more than one kind of volcanic crater, so we have two such categories - and a parent so people can search for both (if they don't care about the kind of crater).
If they [u:38xsypsa]do[/u:38xsypsa] care about the kind of crater, then they [u:38xsypsa]can[/u:38xsypsa] be more specific. Eventually <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> it is at least possible that all craters will be classified correctly, whereas if they are blended then there is [u:38xsypsa]no[/u:38xsypsa] possibility that this will happen.
For those people marking craters who don't know the difference, they will (probably) choose [volcanic crater / caldera]. So it is/will "always" be a blend, but I think it is better to have the blend at this lower level than at the top.[/quote:38xsypsa]
Thank you!
Maybe it would be good to remove its synonym [caldera] also - just as a doubled word now?
I understand the sense of specific categories, and not only here...
I just do not understand, why not to allow users just to use parent [volcanic craters] for places...
User tries to add category for craters, and sees:
[volcanic craters]
[volcanic crater / caldera]
What kind will he choice (being not a specialist), if he does not know, what is 'caldera' or 'maar'?...
Of course, [volcanic craters] - or just [crater] - but both have marking [i:38xsypsa][color=#8080BF:38xsypsa]'Do not use for places'[/color:38xsypsa][/i:38xsypsa]...
(By the way, user does not see this marking when adds category from the list, so it cannot define his choice...)
Maybe it would be good to remain [i:38xsypsa]'Do not use for places'[/i:38xsypsa] only for 'the parentest' [crater], but to allow all 'children' to add for places?..
I do not insist, of course, but does not that seem logical?? |
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bio2935c
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[quote="bubnilka":25w0aw8z]Maybe it would be good to remove its synonym [caldera] also - just as a doubled word now?[/quote:25w0aw8z]Of course I thought of that. But I'm not sure any more what the procedure is <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> and I didn't want to risk messing it up. For now, as it is, at least it does no harm.
[quote:25w0aw8z]... why not to allow users just to use parent [volcanic craters] for places... [/quote:25w0aw8z]In general we want to encourage users to be as specific as possible, and then [u:25w0aw8z]we[/u:25w0aw8z] group the specifics into families. It's the same reason why [dining and leisure] and [shopping and services] are not selectable for individual objects.
[quote:25w0aw8z]User tries to add category for craters, and sees:
[volcanic craters]
[volcanic crater / caldera] [/quote:25w0aw8z]Depends of what the user types when trying to add the category:
If they type "volca..." (on the English page, anyway) they will see [volcanic crater / caldera] (which is the option we/I would like them to choose).
If they type "crater" they will see [volcanic crater / caldera] as well as some other types of crater (including maar). If they know what a maar crater is they [i:25w0aw8z]can[/i:25w0aw8z] choose that; if not, they should choose [volcanic...], again the "right" choice.
If an expert comes along later, they can change it if needed. If not, then it is at least not too badly inaccurate. |
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arakp
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Thanks for the detailed answer.
I can agree with the most that you wrote.
Though I still think that the [volcanic craters] has the right to be added for places as the more understandable category, sorry...
But I do not insist, of course... |
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arakp
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Can you delete [gay resort] as a "synonym" of [resort], please?..
If need, it can be a child category, but not a "synonym"... |
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bio2935c
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[quote="bubnilka":1jn56yxh]Can you delete [gay resort] as a "synonym" of [resort], please?..
If need, it can be a child category, but not a "synonym"...[/quote:1jn56yxh]
Done!
Don't know why that happened in the first place. A slip of the finger? ... of the mind? |
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arakp
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| Thank you! |
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kurop
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City category does not cause subcategories
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neighborhood bla bla..
is there a reason?
Some people change the cities to get the urbanist award.
the district is doing the city. |
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Teresa
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[quote="Nihat BursaBasket":2kefkwf0]City category does not cause subcategories
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neighborhood bla bla..
is there a reason?
Some people change the cities to get the urbanist award.
the district is doing the city.[/quote:2kefkwf0]
I am not clear what you are asking or referring to, would you mind clarify it? Thanks. |
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bio2935c
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[quote="Nihat BursaBasket":r0pu8ema]City category does not cause subcategories
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neighborhood bla bla..[/quote:r0pu8ema]
A district is not a type of city, and neither is a neighbourhood.
We do NOT want every neighbourhood and district to show up with a "red dot" when we look for [city]s. |
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kurop
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[quote="bio2935c":d7sjsd4g]
A district is not a type of city, and neither is a neighbourhood.
We do NOT want every neighbourhood and district to show up with a "red dot" when we look for [city]s.[/quote:d7sjsd4g]
Thanks for the detailed explanation <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
Additional info: There are 81 cities in Turkey.
select city category
You will see the map vandalism <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o --> |
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[quote="Nihat BursaBasket":3sdxtbb8]Additional info: There are 81 cities in Turkey.
select city category
You will see the map vandalism <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->[/quote:3sdxtbb8]
Yes, I know, and not just in Turkey.
But not necessarily vandalism.
A significant part of the "sea" of red dots is because of a bug that keeps showing the red dots even after the category has been removed from the object.
We are trying to get admin to fix this, but it has not happened yet. <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very Sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> |
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Teresa
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[quote="bio2935c":1ous4fpx][quote="Nihat BursaBasket":1ous4fpx]Additional info: There are 81 cities in Turkey.
select city category
You will see the map vandalism <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->[/quote:1ous4fpx]
Yes, I know, and not just in Turkey.
But not necessarily vandalism.
A significant part of the "sea" of red dots is because of a bug that keeps showing the red dots even after the category has been removed from the object.
We are trying to get admin to fix this, but it has not happened yet. <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very Sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->[/quote:1ous4fpx]
In order for the red dots to disappear after the category had been removed, we [u:1ous4fpx]HAVE[/u:1ous4fpx] to edit the removal of category in the old version. Unfortunately using the old version to remove category also has it's own bug, that is the tag that had the category removed will keep on coming back on the map page, often just as the next tag is being clicked on, and this will keep on happening for at least 4 times before the next category can be worked on. Maddening, but at least it removed the red dot as well as the category. |
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walidooh
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Hello everyone!
I need help with the category 'county seat', to be precise, i need a situation - nothing serious - cleared up. Definitions of some terms on different sites are also contradictory (Wikimapia vs Wikipedia, and depending on which language one uses).
A while ago i edited the county seats / county capitals in Romania, most having all sort of categories, so i opted for the categories 'county seat', 'municipality', 'draw only border', making the situation more orderly. The next day a user undone some of the edits. I've exchanged messages with three till now, all i got was to write here and ask for other opinions.
One user suggested the category 'capital city of state/province/region' , in my opinion, and knowing well the situation in Romania, is not fully suitable. This category would be suitable only to some cities, like former state capitals (not all), university centers (not all) or the largest cities with a higher gravitational pull for the population.
Also, the category 'capital city of state/province/region' is not suitable for county capitals, they are the centers of the county, not a state like in the United States, and provinces are mostly here understood as the historical regions (thus suitable for cities former state capital) and regions are similar to the last, we have 8 developing regions with so-called capitals (not widely known and with some institutions). Development regions of Romania: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_regions_of_Romania">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developme ... of_Romania<!-- m -->
Example of a Region: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centru_(development_region">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centru_(d ... ent_region<!-- m -->)
'As other development regions, it does not have any administrative powers, its main function being to co-ordinate regional development projects and manage funds from the European Union.'
Wikimapia says this: capital city of state/province/region (en) - Please use category [capital city of country] for national capitals.
Only the 'municipality' category is not enough, there are some counties who have more than one municipality (besides the county capital / seat).
Wikipedia says this: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_seat">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_seat<!-- m --> - 'county seat' available for Romania too
Those who are not ok with 'county seat' category being used, mentioned 'available only for USA and Taiwan' . Same does Wikimapia: county seat (en) - The city in which the offices of county government are located (administrative center of a county). The term is used in the United States and Taiwan. In the United Kingdom and Ireland, county towns have a similar function.
Why i am OK with the category 'county seat' to be used in Romania:
First of all, here the county capitals are officially called 'Municipii resedinta de judet', literally meaning 'Municipalities residence of county' or 'County residence municipalities'.
County capitals host the County Council (Consiliul Judetean in Romanian) and the Prefecture (Prefectura).
Wikipedia says this (also attention on how they are called/named - see list): <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Romania">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Romania<!-- m -->
This may be to some use, though ambiguous : <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Romania">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administr ... of_Romania<!-- m -->
'According to the Constitution of Romania, its territory is organized administratively into communes, towns and counties:[1]
At the county level: 41 counties, and one city with special status (Bucharest, the national capital)
At the town/commune level: 103 municipalities and 217 other cities (for urban areas), and 2861 communes (for rural areas).[2] Municipality (municipiu) status is accorded to larger towns, but it does not give their administrations any greater powers.'
Last one refers to City Hall, which is not the same with County Council (hosted by the county capital, or seat).
According to this: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://portal.cor.europa.eu/divisionpowers/Pages/Romania.aspx">https://portal.cor.europa.eu/divisionpo ... mania.aspx<!-- m --> ,
'The Counties are responsible for:
Own competencies: (Article 22 of Framework Law n°195/2006 on decentralisation, revised by GEO no. 42/2016)
Management of local airports;
Management of public and private domain of the County;
Management of cultural institutions of County interest;
Administration of public health units of the County;
Primary social services and specialised services for victims of domestic violence;
Issuing of permits / authorizations;
Medical care provided in local public health units;
Other competencies established by law.'
Also, a County Council is elected at the local government elections.
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bio2935c
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Unfortunately, these types of categories are all a bit of a mess right now. Because the same words are being used in different countries to mean different things. So, for example, a “county” in Romania is not the same kind of thing as a “county” in the USA or the UK.
We do have categories for various levels of administration.
• At the very top level there are countries. Most countries cannot be drawn here at WM because they are too large. And thus we also do not have a category for a “country”. Well, ok, we do have a [country] category, but ... only some of the objects marked with this category actually are countries. In effect the category is marking some random areas, so it is not very useful.
○ Alongside countries, we also have national capitals. The category for this is [capital city of country] and the objects marked are mostly legitimate. One country; one capital city.
• At the next level, things start to get confusing. We have the category called [first-level administrative division] which is intended to be the first level of administration [u:37vf21m8]below[/u:37vf21m8] the national level. Depending on the particular country, some of these first-level divisions are also too large to be drawn on WM. Sometimes these administrative regions have their own laws, but mostly they have regional responsibility for public services (health, police, etc) although this too varies from country to country. From our perspective, however, the main confusion arises because the names they have in the various countries varies a lot. If you look at our category description <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="wikimapia.org/#lang=en&;lat=48.048710&lon=22.236328&z=4&m=w&tag=44634&show=/object/category/?type=view&id=44634&lng=en&tab=main">wikimapia.org/#lang=en&;lat=48.04 ... n&tab=main<!-- m --> you will see a long list of what these administrative divisions are called in various countries. Even so, the list is not complete. For example, I do not see Romania on the list. The WP article <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Romania">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Romania<!-- m --> shows what looks like “first level” administrative regions in Romania. And they appear to be called “counties” in the English language; and “județele” in Romanian. For comparison, in the USA and Brazil the first-level divisions are called states, in a number of countries they are called provinces, and there are also a variety of other terms in use around the world.
○ Of course, these administrative divisions also have some kind of capitals (cities, towns, whatever). The category we have for these is called [capital city of state/province/region].
• At the next level, we have the category called [second-level administrative division]. Some countries, especially smaller countries, do not have these at all. In the USA (to pick an obvious example) they are called “county”. Or - just to be confusing - in [u:37vf21m8]some[/u:37vf21m8] states they are called county. In others township, or parish, for example. But they are really the same kind of thing.
○ and of course, the counties (in the USA at least) also have a capital - called a “county seat”.
• You will perhaps notice that we also have categories for fourth- and fifth-level administrative divisions. Frankly, I do not understand these. For me, anything smaller than a USA county would be a city or town, for example. A something that we already have a separate category for.
• By-the-way, each of these levels of government probably also have specific buildings where the various officials and departments have their offices. We do not have (I think) level-specific categories for these, but I know that some of them are categorized with the ‘division’ category. This is a mistake - in my view - but ...
In short, it’s a mish-mash. We really should straighten things out, and I would love to do that, but it’s a massive job (given that there are about 200 countries to deal with). To pick one small example, in Lithuania there are some second-levels, and a great many third-levels, but zero first-level divisions. What's up with that?? And in Northern Ireland there are a great many places called [county], some of which are just pubs. ??? Perhaps some time in the future there will be time to try to improve this situation. Perhaps by introducing country-specific synonyms for the generic xxxxx-level categories.
One other thing I should mention: These are some kind of “administrative” divisions. The implication is that they are in charge of some kind of administration and that the particular administration we are talking about is something that can be divided “nicely” into parts that make up the whole. Of course, the various administrative functions of a country or state or whatever you want to call it may not all divide up into the same areas. Off the top of my head I can think of school districts, forestry districts, health regions, highway districts, sanitation districts and I know there are many more. These ALL are [u:37vf21m8]some[/u:37vf21m8] kind of administrative division. But we have chosen to [u:37vf21m8]not[/u:37vf21m8] include them as objects to be drawn and labelled in WM. To be frank, I'm not even sure what qualifies the divisions we do have as “legitimate” for inclusion here. To some extent they are “obvious”, but as we go further into the labyrinth they become less so. Perhaps each country has its own understanding of what a “proper” first- and second-level division is? If you live in Romania, you probably have an understanding of what these “should” be for Romania.
In the short term, and to at least try to address your specific situation (assuming I understand it), I suspect that you would be better off to label your places as first-level “things”. In other words, follow the advice of the user who suggested that option. Or we could start the make-over project in Romania, but creating some Romania-specific synonyms. They would still [u:37vf21m8]be[/u:37vf21m8] “first-level ...”, but would have a Romania-specific name - in Romanian (and English) at least. Would you like to do that? If so, this should be a project/task for all Romanian users, not just you. Hopefully you know who some of them are. If this is the path you want to go, please invite others to come here too. Perhaps we should start a separate topic even. In the Romanian-language forum might have been nice, but I see it is not used much. <!-- s:-( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_sad.gif" alt=":-(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:-( -->
*** and finally, because of continuing bugs in the category display system (the red dots), [b:37vf21m8]please[/b:37vf21m8] use “Old WM” when you are making changes/deletions to categories. *** |
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walidooh
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Thank you for answering and clearing a bit the mist, by clearing a bit i mean i see now that other users agree that WM is not a bit of a mishmash, but a lot of a mishmash! Obviously so...
To make a very, very long story short, as long as WM is done by unskilled users (most come, add 'my house' and never join again) or long lasting users that see things in their own way, and it does not have a map layer of its own (that would certainly clarify things a lot), it will continue to be a world wide mishmash.
One of the reasons it's not a well known site, which i wrote to Teresa, something in the lines 'this unknown Wikimapia, full of bugs', i wasn't angry at her, she's a wonderful AU, i was stating a fact. I was, for years, editor on other mapping sites, those also have or had problems, but WM tops the list from what i have experienced.
They are so many problems on WM, with categories translations included, i could go on here on three pages about that, but i don't want to make a very lengthy message.
My 'religion' is 'liberty and equality', and because WM is so liberal about adding stuff (which is also part of its downfall), like being able to add my little passions like historic buildings / monuments, ruins, with appropriate categories and photos being added and useful links (some sort of encyclopedia - what i am creating now on my city with the historic center and not only)...in a nutshell urban evolution, is the main reason i stay!
I do not understand why WM went down the path of creating all those 'x level administrative whatever' categories. It's alright to be there, have the option, but if its not made by a group of users who know what they are doing, and everyone ads it in its own way... that's a recipe for a disastrous map. Which we have now!
Looking at the road map of Romania, looks OK at a certain zoom level (in general we don't have a problem with street ranking on Ro.), but look at neighboring Hungary and Rep. of Moldova, the whole country looks like a city map. I doubt they have so many important roads (highway, national road or european route) between every locality.
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'One other thing I should mention: These are some kind of “administrative” divisions. The implication is that they are in charge of some kind of administration and that the particular administration we are talking about is something that can be divided “nicely” into parts that make up the whole. Of course, the various administrative functions of a country or state or whatever you want to call it may not all divide up into the same areas. Off the top of my head I can think of school districts, forestry districts, health regions, highway districts, sanitation districts and I know there are many more. These ALL are some kind of administrative division. But we have chosen to not include them as objects to be drawn and labelled in WM. To be frank, I'm not even sure what qualifies the divisions we do have as “legitimate” for inclusion here. To some extent they are “obvious”, but as we go further into the labyrinth they become less so. ''
You summed up that perfectly
'Perhaps each country has its own understanding of what a “proper” first- and second-level division is?'
Exactly! And that's why there's so much confusion. And it is a bit ridiculous that an AU from Bulgaria to tell me the situation on Romania, as neighbors as we are, we are very different countries. And only stating the fact that WM categorie definition says so - definition is rather ambiguous.
'If you live in Romania, you probably have an understanding of what these “should” be for Romania.'
I live and i know the country damn well, as most of us know their country. We do not use in every day life the 'first level administration' and so on, though they are easy to realise which they are (first level administration would be counties and the Municipality of Bucharest), second level would be communes and towns / cities/municipalities (subdivisions of county); city districts in most towns & cities are not official (few exceptions). I think we are quite similar to the organisation of the United States, except we don't have states, and almost surely the definition of county and county seat are slightly different (and USA does not have communes as far as i know- they are all 'towns')
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walidooh
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Continuing here, better two messages than a very lengthy one
'Or we could start the make-over project in Romania, but creating some Romania-specific synonyms. They would still be “first-level ...”, but would have a Romania-specific name - in Romanian (and English) at least. Would you like to do that? If so, this should be a project/task for all Romanian users, not just you.'
That would be great, since 'county seat' is available in USA, Taiwan...and Ireland, UK, but slightly different. Romania should be added too, probably other countries as well (after a thorough search). For Romania 'county' would be' județ' and 'county seat' should be 'Municipiu reședință de județ' (literally County residence municipality).
Of course others should be consulted but i doubt many (if 'many stil are around on WM) would participate. I have interacted with very few, i do not know them. But i could search for them (in general recognize some sort of Romanian name; or by place of activity) and see if they have been recently (in the past month) online and message them.
'Perhaps we should start a separate topic even. In the Romanian-language forum might have been nice, but I see it is not used much. <!-- s:-( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_sad.gif" alt=":-(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:-( --> '
Should be a separate topic, concerns mostly Romania (probably other countries too), though a category is under discussion, not something clearly specific of a certain country. Most adequate would be on the Romanian forum. Forum, general or regional, on WM is not very used, i've noticed, that's why i almost never post here. Seems useless. Except this time, and thank you again.
' *** and finally, because of continuing bugs in the category display system (the red dots), please use “Old WM” when you are making changes/deletions to categories. *** '
I have been down that path! I undeleted some unuseful tags like 'bar' trying to convert them in something useful like building with adress (they were way too many deleted items), i got stuck with them on the map without being able to edit them. I I don't remember now how i solved the problem, i think Teresa intervened too.
So what should i do? Undelete those with categories, delete the categ. on old WM and delete them again (obviously)?!
And last, i've noticed at least two other problems on editing in Romania:
1 - house plots marked as buildings, those are clearly not OK, i should start to edit right away, after i have the permission of others (there's a large number)
all these around here, and in several other localities <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="wikimapia.org/#lang=ro&;lat=46.751013&lon=23.400836&z=17&m=w&show=/39514320/ro/Strada-Principala-1278">wikimapia.org/#lang=ro&;lat=46.75 ... ipala-1278<!-- m -->
also photos with logos and site links on them, i think they are not OK, they should be deleted (done this in the past and recently) <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="wikimapia.org/#lang=ro&;lat=46.747624&lon=23.387833&z=13&m=w&show=/1382549/ro/Gil%C4%83u/photo/2690353">wikimapia.org/#lang=ro&;lat=46.74 ... to/2690353<!-- m -->
2 - administrative areas polygons clog the map, not sure if they are OK mapped like that, but they certainly make the map harder for the eye to look at. At least the categories are OK, 'commune' - simple and clear, with no first, second, third administrative whatever, that honestly nobody uses.
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I don't know what categories to be used exactly so that the map would look better. Marked as invisible? |
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bio2935c
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Ok, I have started a separate category. Here: <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="wikimapia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=309927#p309927">viewtopic.php?p=309927#p309927<!-- l -->
As for your specific questions at the bottom ...
1) house plots? yeah that's annoying. Personally I've given up if they are just personal houses/plots - just too many / not worth my while. Larger tags containing a whole neighbourhood (eg) or a school yard or the equivalent - those I will fix if they bother me enough. What should [u:31slxqi6]you[/u:31slxqi6] do? I can't tell you.
1) photos with logos? Some people here rail against them, and you're right that they're really not ok. That said, admin seems to not be too worried. So what does that mean? Dunno. I have no actual advice.
2) administrative area clog? Yes, at some zoom levels they do seem too much "in your face". Of course, part of the reason is that in the particularly 'bad' places, it's often not one border but two, since the outlines of adjacent places (which ought to have a single border between them) instead have two slightly offset outline edges. Still, if you zoom out or in a bit they become less 'visible'. I can't think of a 'solution' that would work well at all zooms. Especially something that would not require new programming from admin! I am thinking it might be better if they were all [draw only border]. The borders would still be visible, but at least the middle (which 'contains' nothing) would not be so prominent.I do know I wouldn't like it if they were [invisible]. |
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NadyaChe
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| Now thanks to AndrewValdaj we have old multilingual [road maintenance department / station] reduced to a child category for somewhat strange new category in Russian [дорожное хозяйство/инфраструктура], obvious duplicate <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="old.wikimapia.org/#lat=55.7189332&;lon=37.7062019&z=18&l=1&m=b&tag=46605&show=/object/category/?type=view&id=46605&lng=0&tab=hierarchy">old.wikimapia.org/#lat=55.718933 ... =hierarchy<!-- m --> . He also removed all children of [road maintenance department / station]. He completely ignores my disapproval of his strange actions here and there, maybe Teresa can do something about it... At least now you know the context. |
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Teresa
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[quote="Sandrinho":752pf4gu]Now thanks to AndrewValdaj we have old multilingual [road maintenance department / station] reduced to a child category for somewhat strange new category in Russian [дорожное хозяйство/инфраструктура], obvious duplicate <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="old.wikimapia.org/#lat=55.7189332&;lon=37.7062019&z=18&l=1&m=b&tag=46605&show=/object/category/?type=view&id=46605&lng=0&tab=hierarchy">old.wikimapia.org/#lat=55.718933 ... =hierarchy<!-- m --> . He also removed all children of [road maintenance department / station]. He completely ignores my disapproval of his strange actions here and there, maybe Teresa can do something about it... At least now you know the context.[/quote:752pf4gu]
I just checked the category of [road maintenance department / station], It is indeed now a child category, which in my opinion is wrong. The parent category he created is in Russian, and Google translate it as [road management/infrastructure], this description do not make any sense at all. Further more, when creating parent category, we MUST first of all use English as the main language as the starting point for the category, and then add translation of other languages, or add child category.
You suggested maybe I can do something about it. First of all I need to check with AndrewValdaj to find out what is it he was trying to do. In my opinion [road maintenance department / station] is a fine category, it identify a tag that a department is responsible for road maintenance, I think it should remain as the parent category and [дорожное хозяйство/инфраструктура] [road management/infrastructure] should be removed as a duplicated category because road maintenance and road management is exactly the same thing.
Until I find out from AndrewValdaj the reason why and what he is trying to do before I am not going to do anything about it just yet. The last thing I want is to start an edit war with my fellow categeory moderators. I will report back here after I have talk with him. |
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Teresa
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I have the reply from AndrewValdaj. He explained his purpose is as follows:
To creating a tree of categories that combine categories related to the operation and construction of roads, engineering structures on roads, traffic management, road design organizations, government road authorities, and so on. He therefore created [road infrastructure] as the parent. Th lay out of that hierarchy is : <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="wikimapia.org/#lang=en&;lat=59.634039&lon=30.654087&z=17&m=w&tag=75830&show=/object/category/?type=view&id=75830&lng=0&tab=hierarchy">wikimapia.org/#lang=en&;lat=59.63 ... =hierarchy<!-- m -->
At this stage, I cannot see any major issues and I welcome all your suggestion to the hierarchy or to the content that had been discussed in this thread. |
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Teresa
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| Further to my message here from yesterday, in future if any category moderators is thinking of major edit like the one proposed or carried out by AndrewValdaj, I will appeciate if the category moderator could bring it out here in the forum so that we can discuss before it is carrried out and also allow users to know what is happening. I think it is also the basic courtesy. |
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arakp
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During several days I see strange mass zero (!) manipulations with categories [emergency management agency] by AndrewValdaj in my watchlist...
Here is a very small part of them -
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(... and so on numerously...) (...) (...)
It is enough to check only one of links - others are the identical: [b:1btrg1ls]nothing changed[/b:1btrg1ls]...
I can only suppose that he, maybe, tries to change one category synonym to another in one of languages pages...
Can other category moderators explain to him that his actions completely senseless, please?..
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dani517
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Strange behavior of the bubnilka, he could have asked me, but for some reason he does it in a roundabout way through the forum.
Once again the “Red Dot” bug appeared when searching for the [emergency management agency] category; this category began to appear when searching for the [electric bus depot] category. Surprisingly, the red dots were located mainly in Ukraine, and a small number in Russia. AK did not help in solving the problem, so I had to solve the problem this way. |
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arakp
Joined: 27/03/11
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| 1 year ago |
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[quote="AndrewValdaj":31pbtq7y]Strange behavior of the bubnilka, he could have asked me, but for some reason he does it in a roundabout way through the forum...[/quote:31pbtq7y]
After you just got your "full status", at once arrogantly decided to [i:31pbtq7y]"warn against stupid actions" (quote)[/i:31pbtq7y] your colleague-AU, I see no reasons to ask you personally about any of your [i:31pbtq7y]"smart actions"[/i:31pbtq7y] outside this forum.
Maybe you heard that we have the ability to comment any revisions in WM, especially when they look strange for others and are so widespread...
In this case moderators, who carefully check huge territories over the world map will not be distracted from their immediate work by your strange mass actions. |
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NadyaChe
Joined: 01/04/11
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| AndrewValdaj often tries to cover his strange actions, wants to discuss them privately and doesn't like when they are examined publicly. Still I can't find any logic behind many things he does, like shuffling parent categories or his urge to add duplicates in Russian (translate/create as many categories as possible regardless of what we already have). Shame on him. |
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arakp
Joined: 27/03/11
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Please, correct hierarchy of the tiny category [factory management office] (4 languages and 475 objects during 3 years after its creation).
This is just an administrative building, not more, but now it is subordinated to the common category [industry] also - so on the map now it has marking of other production buildings (plants, factories, ...)
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Please, remain only one parent category [office building] to this category [factory management office]. |
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