ogap
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Спасибо за предоставленную возможность тестирования.
В принципе работает хорошо. Мои наблюдения:
Трудно стереть построенную дорогу- удалять значительно труднее чем строить, удаляется только по одному сегменту, чтоб построить сегмент требуется 1 клик, а чтоб стереть 3. Это защита от вандалов? Нет режима показать и места и дороги. То что в режиме места не показываются дороги на сегодняшний день правильно, так как, на примере Вологды это приводит к жутким тормозам. Бедные юзеры уровня 1,0 этого сделать не могут и практически лишены возможности лицезреть славный город Вологду. Может пока отключить показ пользовательских дорог для пользователей уровня 0,1?
И по отображению в зависимости от зума. На сегодняшний момент работает так:
Courtyard road(CR), Street low traffic(SLT), Road high traffic(RHT), Highway(HW)-все исчезают при z=12, а вот появляются вновь HW и RHT при z=13, SLT при z=14, а CR при z=15. При том что снимков с zoom 15 на половину территории нет. Может слегка поднять вверх и растянуть? Тут надо подумать.
Извиняюсь что не на английском, с трудом сформулировал даже на русском.
PS стало работать действительно быстрей, но все равно тормозит с дорогами.
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koriakine
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Thanks, ogap.
Ogap wondering why is to hard to delete existed road. - I think it's the idea (feature).
Also he's asking to open road view for users. - Yes, only some test left.
What about the rest - we'll take into consideration. |
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Otto
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Memphis: The "Choose" solution makes it darn near unusable. Why not default it to the USERS default language? Every user has their own language setting, right? Automatically choose that one.
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koriakine
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| 18 years ago |
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| I made some improvements and opened roads drawing to all registered users. |
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Memphis
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> Why not default it to the USERS default language?
Otto, it's rather sensible variant. |
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Memphis
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> I made some improvements and opened roads drawing to all registered users.
Thank you, Koriakine. Since road drawing is opened for all registered users maybe it is right to inform mighty Community at "Last updates" topic of "Feature discussion and requests" section (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.wikimapia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=268">www.wikimapia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=268<;!-- m -->).
Let me repeate my post from this thread:
"During using of road drawing tool I met one issue.
Warning messages (displayed near "save" and "cancel" buttons) are too unnoticeable, that is why from time to time it is unclear reason of negative response (e.g. segment was not drawn). It will be nice to change color of message's text, or add distinctive background color. And also it will be nice to increase timeout of disappearing of warning messages."
Let me repeate another my post from this thread:
"Accumulation of user activity (created places counter, number of edits, commented places) is awesome feature. It allows to estimate total investment of concrete user in life of Wikimapia. Also during viewing of certain place it can be interesting to know reliability of contribution source. So, activity of user can show its trustworthiness to a certain extent.
The question is "Is it supposed in further to accumulate statistic regarding road contributions?".
Well, IMHO it is possible to consider one named road as reason for increasing creations counter.
But the most accurate way of representation is length of created roads :)"
And the last one:
"Also it is interesting - will road profile contain name of its creator? I think it is rather useful as soon as road drawing tool can be used by vandals for depicting abusive slogan with the help of segments. Name of contributor will be necessary to take anti-vandal measures in this case."
Dear koriakine, your opinion regarding mentioned questions is highly desirable.
Thanks in advance. |
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Jabir99
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I have tried the new road edit feature, it is very slow, cumbersome and tedius to operate, its name saving menu is not working at all. I tried to draw SHAHRA-E-FAISAL and saved it but the could not save its title and description.
This is what I wanted to save:
Shahra-e-Faisal (literally: Highway of Faisal) is named after the late King Faisal of Saudi Arabia. It starts from Metropole hotel in Karachi and leaves Karachi (at that point its name is changed to National Highway) and goes on to Hyderabad, Lahore, Rawalpindi and all the way to Peshawar. In a way, Shahra-e-Faisal is a natural extention of the National Highway.
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koriakine
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Yes, I will make a bigger delay to notice, also I have put a little more attention to these button (for example after changes you cannot go away without warning dialog), probably this is not enough.
Yes, roads naming saves user id, also road serments remembers creator uid (so for administrator it's easy delete them by user or by selected area). More "Accumulation of user activity" and statistics will be implemented.
I will take a look at sharha-e-faisal... thank you Jabir, I found some bugs and fixed them.
Jabir, By the way, what browser you use?
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Jabir99
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| Thank you Koriakine for your reply, I am using Opera 9.24. I have found it to be better than Explorer (which is now trying to copy it) and it can actually draw circles around Fire Fox. I recommend it to all. |
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Jabir99
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| 18 years ago |
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| Another thing, shouldn't the ROAD EDIT feature be a part of the ADD PLACE menu instead of VIEW menu? |
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B3Fiend
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I guess I am not seeing the usefulness of a road feature at all, unless I am missing something. Simply switching to 'Map' or 'Hybrid' view will show the roads. What is the purpose of a user drawing a road on top of the existing map view of the road?
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x-Toryu
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"Another thing, shouldn't the ROAD EDIT feature be a part of the ADD PLACE menu instead of VIEW menu?"
- (correct me if I'm wrong) menus will be changed soon. |
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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| B3Friend, ot every region is well streetmapped as the USA. |
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qweasd
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| I seem to have encountered some strange behavior while playing around marking streets in the Old Town of Lviv, Ukraine. Some have fairly complicated with branches going sideways, in particular one вул. Володимира Винниченка at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.wikimapia.org/#lat=49.841141&;lon=24.036503&z=18&l=28&m=a&v=5">www.wikimapia.org/#lat=49.841141 ... 28&m=a&v=5<!-- m -->, just east of the city arsenal museum, displays correctly while in edit mode but after switching to view mode there appears an additional edge connecting two vertices. |
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oldman
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| B3Friend, Being in the developed part of the world it is taken for granted bieng provided maps of roads to great detail,however some parts of the world or most of the third world countries the street map that you and other wikimapian provide are probabley the first time they will see a map of their part of the country. |
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Jabir99
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| Now the ROAD EDIT is working fine. I have added two roads in Karachi. Shahra-e-Faisal and Mai Kolachi Bypass. This tool is still slow but otherwise working fine. |
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Otto
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B3Fiend: An accurate road map made using points and layout information could be used in directions and route planning. A mere picture of a road map can't be used that way.
While much road data exists, not a lot of it is particularly accurate. Making road data wiki-able is an interesting idea, at least.
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stcraftie59
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Road edit is useless in Dover, Delaware, USA. Not only all roads marked, but there are some of Google's maps showing roads planned, but not paved.
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.wikimapia.org/#lat=39.161479&;lon=-75.505772&z=16&l=0&m=h&v=2">www.wikimapia.org/#lat=39.161479 ... =0&m=h&v=2<!-- m -->
Some of the dirt roads near here are marked as well. |
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koriakine
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| qweasd thank you for the bug, it will be fixed it soon. |
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koriakine
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| 18 years ago |
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| stcraftie59: while I admin the quality of roads presentaion on the google, I can't add information about the road or translate it. That's the point, to describe roads also. |
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WikiMapper
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| I've been working on some major roads in the UK. It works, but there should be a feature to splice sections together. It would be helpful as I seem to have split the M4 into three parts and they won't unite as a single line. |
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oldman
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WikkiMapper
This feature does not seem to allow you to join named roads toghether,onced named and datta is saved its considererd as a complete road. In future it would be best to name a road only when it is completely finished. you chose a lengthey road it was difficult to do in short space of time therefore every time you stopped it was taken as a completed section. Now when you map the rest of M4 you can name it in one go,as i have unnamed the sections you had already named(hope u dont mind).
A Request for Koriakine that when a road is being edited the littel pop up box with options that appear is too close and somtimes gets into path of what is being edited and therefore you have to wait untill it fades out,could that pop up be futher away from that point being edited please. |
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oldman
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TO WikkiMapper.
Sorry forgot to mention that when you do the last section and come to naming it and when it asks you to choose more segements you will have to go over all of them to the endig otherwise you will be back to sqare one. |
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rmikke
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| 18 years ago |
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Geee, I just found out the road editing possibility.
Works fine for me. :-) |
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rmikke
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| After some thought - I hope, that after the test stage, the position "Roads (edit)" will disappear from the View menu. It would be much more intuitive, when just clicking on an empty area would show little menu with "create place" AND "start road" positions. |
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rmikke
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Ah, and one more annoying feature.
While drawing a road, there are moments, when a menu appears (for ending a road or making a crossroads). The annoying part is, these menus are placed partially on some other road, created earlier, and whe I click on the part of menu, covering that other road, the Edit Road dialog appears for that other road. It definitely should not. |
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Arb
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| 18 years ago |
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It can take much longer to add a road than a place so it is often necessary to stop and resume at a later time. Because of this it would be very useful to have the ability to *continue* a road. For this to work, when one clicks on an *end* point the dialogue should include the option "Continue road from this point".
If this were implemented the existing option "Start road from this point" could be reworded for clarity: "Start new road from this point".
And to take this to its logical conclusion, if the *end* point of a road being edited is placed over the *end* point of another road then the dialogue should include the option "Combine roads?" provided either at least one of them is unnamed or they both have identical names and descriptions .
Apologies if these are duplicate requests, there is a lot about roads in the forum.
-Arb. |
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koriakine
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| Thanks Arbus, we also tohught about this. I am making a fix. |
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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| 18 years ago |
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| If I have one street, of which one part has low traffic and the other part has high traffic, what can I do best???? |
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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| 18 years ago |
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I found the solution myself. Delete a section in between. Unset the name of one part. Change the traffic frequency. Then rename it, by typing and NOT CHOOSE FROM THE NAMES OF STREETS NEARBY. Then join the streets together again!.
Another question: The one-way option is not working or I don't understand. |
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mohairbear
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| 18 years ago |
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I don't know if anyone noticed that when you roam around in the "Roads (view)" mode, the location given in the WikiMapia window title (WikiMapia: Country/Region/City, X km) never gets updated.
You have to switch to a different mode for the location to get updated as you move around. |
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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| I think the Arrow pointing out the direction of the road is mucht too huge! |
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infoholder
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Just found this thread (thanks to bard's forum search!) - and realized that my difficulty with roads is experienced by others as well.
When I create a long road, I like to save a few segments at a time - in case something crashes, lose power, etc. I notice that every time I save, I have to "Start new road from this point" each time. And the name of the road does not continue. It would be nice if I could continue the road and keep the name of the road instead of backtracking and naming each segment - which gets very tedious. |
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onlooker
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| I agree with infoholder. There has to be a simpler way e.g. possibility to splice. |
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Martin67
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| 17 years ago |
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| "possibility to splice" I can't wait for that one... |
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ArnoutSteenhoek
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| Splicing is joining? (is quite easy) |
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Martin67
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| Pleeeease explain! |
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Martin67
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| Or maybe I meant cutting... |
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Shareef1113
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How to get current veiw of wikimapia
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prasad_ichal
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| I have created a railroad for study purpose. It doesn't exists. The exercise is purely an effort to evaluate different routes to connect two cities across the mountain Sahyadri or western ghats. The How can I name it and add information regarding the same? At present it appears as if the railroad is present in actual which certainly is not true. Can any body enlighten me on this? |
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jayesh85
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I can not edit the road it shoe message
"Your experience is too low to edit roads, please consult the Wikimapia forum about road edit. To have more experience you need to create new places. This is temporary limitation. Thank you for your understanding and patience."
Why this happend? |
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0sph0
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Farizqo
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| i like wikimapia |
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hakunnin
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"i like wikimapia"
Prove it with your activity. |
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dambar
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Hi there,
I can able to make a new roads and I've done many of them and when I finished making the roads then I save it as well but when I leave the road section and move to add places then it won't appear in satellite view but if I go to road edit section then I can see the roads what I've done before. What's wrong with it? Any idea? or does Wikimedia team figure it out later on? When it will appear on satellite view? Hope I'll get an answer soon. :) |
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Teresa
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hariwijaya
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I want to edit or add some road around my city, why i can't do it? The message shows:
"Your experience is too low to edit roads, please consult the Wikimapia forum about road edit. To have more experience you need to create new places. This is temporary limitation. Thank you for your understanding and patience."
What kind of experience that allowed to use this feature? |
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Martin67
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manuchampakaday
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Dear all,
how i am edit road. |
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manuchampakaday
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Dear all,
I made many updates to road function, but it's not finished yet. |
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